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Ricardo
December 3rd, 2008 @11:41 pm  

Impressing way that you have gone, Ruck. I think you’re completely right. When one door closes, somewhere else another door just opened for you.

andrew wee
December 4th, 2008 @1:21 am  

Hey dude,
It’s man of you to mention where you’ve come from, what you’ve been through to get to where you are.

Instead of looking down on you, i think this post will have affiliates wanting to work with C2M, just cos you guys know what the BH side is and are working on the side that lets you sleep well at night.

We all have our challenges and stuff we’re not proud of doing, it boils down to being able to learn from those experiences and move on from there.

Seeya in Vegas.

Whoopsie
December 4th, 2008 @2:16 am  

This is a great post Ruck, and I fully get where you’re coming from. It’s not until you’re putting your own money and business (and personal life too, let’s be honest, when you’re working for yourself it’s all lumped in together) on the line that you really get a feel for how hard it is and how much integrity and honesty matters if you want to be around for more than a few months.

I think you’ll find that your honesty here will do far more to boost and enhance your reputation than take away from it. In the longer term you’re going to enjoy far more success with this sort of approach, and frankly you deserve it.

Kiley
December 4th, 2008 @5:32 am  

Well said and I appreciate you being so open Ruck, however where is the balance? Networks and merchants/advertisers are screwing affiliates everyday w/ shaving/scrubbing.

C2M Ruck
December 4th, 2008 @6:07 am  

@ Kiley - You bring up a very valid point. VERY VALID POINT. Before responding with ideas and possible suggestions let me first say that the exact same thoughts came over me alot at a point where things became tougher. It was those thoughts exactly that really led me into the worst of actually generating leads.

It’s not pretty out there. Our industry is not that big. When I started it was huge. ENORMOUS I thought. It’s smaller than we think. I go to every event I can to meet with these networks. I’m not going to make excuses for some of these networks but some of the people they hire into their company are completely ridiculous. They might have a bachelors degree in marketing but they haven’t lived on their own accord and made their living doing this very thing.

Fortunately for our company we have this advantage. We as owners and managers have ALL made our livings online exclusively for quite some time now. We know the industry. We know about the dirty side of networks, merchants and even faulty tracking software.

All I can say is it is not who were are but what we do that defines us. We spend enormous amounts of time analyzing EVERYONE’s campaigns and we expect them to come to us immediately with any problems. It’s plain and simple. If we cannot properly credit hard working and honest publishers then we dont ANY money.

With that said it is time for a more vocal sort of leadership here. It’s going to get a lot uglier in the industry before it gets better. It’s going to take someone with an enormous out of courage to finally step and call merchants and networks out on this bullshit. It’s going to even take more courage for someone who knows the ugliness of the industry to step and expose different ways of how merchants and networks are also being screwed.

I dont think there can be a balance with exposing both. Am I that guy? I dont know. I hold a moderator gig at Wickedfire in my spare time where a lot of these networks, owners, publishers and merchants hang out. I’ve also had the priviledge of being inquired to speak at some of the industry’s conferences in 2009. I can only hope to give back as much as possible by playing my part in sharing what I know, have seen, have done and what I plan to do.

If that helps in any way, it’s going to be a step in a positive direction.

Best,
Ruck

uberaff
December 4th, 2008 @10:28 am  

Crazy ass post, good shit and thanks for the mention man.

PPC.bz
December 4th, 2008 @8:48 pm  

That was a fucking novel to read. But have you ever sucked dick for a lead? Now that’s bottom.

C2M Ruck
December 4th, 2008 @9:56 pm  

LMAO,

No but I had to do some pretty hard core ass kissing to make that blogroll yo.

KlikCPA
December 12th, 2008 @8:05 pm  

Hi Ruck,

It’s been 6 months since I follow you on Cash Tactics.net, including the forum - great place for newbie in CPA/PPC world, like me for example.

Now I am in Convert2Media because of your words (lessons, experiences, downfalls etc) has truly inspired me a lot.

Bunch of thanks, buddy :)

Regards - JERRY ///

Ad Hustler
December 25th, 2008 @7:03 am  

Ruck,

Was just catching up on some reading this morning. This is an AWESOME and INSPIRATIONAL post. I have mad respect for you.

Keep Hustlin.

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