On top of using the Google Content Network, targeting sites/pages in the search engines by utilizing keyword lists and using Alexa to target their site base there is still a lot of ways to go about buying up media placements. From now until the end of the month I would like to share a few places I have worked with so that you can test them out for yourself. I think you are going to be surprised at some of the sources too as I have seen a lot of them dogged on as 2nd tier Search Engines and notorious for click fraud. Hopefully by showing you my way of using them you can avoid that.
Today I want to talk about Adbrite. I will tell you that a year ago, Adbrite was absolutely atrocious. I mean seriously, they were in bad shape. Today though, they are shaping up to being a damn good resource ( at least in the last few months) of buying ads on some high traffic websites. Over the last year I’ve seen high profile sites such as the Huffington Post, Whitepages and opportunities to advertise within the Lycos Email Client. Upon joining Adbrite as an advertiser you have three options of displaying ads: Text, Banner and Full Page ads which is sort of their way of tapping into the Pay Per View Market (something we may discuss later). Dont underestimate any of these but I can tell you that in testing the full page ads feature I have been merked in every single vertical I have tried. That’s not to say it cant be profitable but I am being upfront with you now. I’ve done rigorous testing with large budgets and probably close to 60 offers and have yet to tap into a profitable campaign. I believe these full page ads are much better for large companies seeking branding over profit which basically sucks as an affiliate marketer. Text and banners ads have been where it is at for me.
Text Ads - Much similar to the Google Adsense program. One thing I would like to bring to light is that a lot of people believe that Adsense is the top tier of contextual ad programs. I agree to a point but I also disagree. Knowing some of the high profile sites that have come into the Adbrite Marketplace and the fact that Adsense payouts have become increasingly shitty gives webmaster more options to try out other ad programs and this is something that excites me because there are tons of opportunities not being taken advantage of everyday. The ads from Adbrite are Blue Link Headlines with black text followed by a green display url. You can create multi-variants of the ad for split testing but best of all is that you are not going to be crapped on by some dumb quality score. Although we are specifically talking about media buys and to most people that means “banner buying”, dont underestimate the power of text ads especially in markets where a presell excels such as bizopps and weight loss.
Banner Ads - Adbrite’s banner ads are dead simple. There are 5 formats and they are:
- Banner (468×60)
- Leaderboard (728×90)
- Medium rectangle (300×250)
- Skyscraper (120×600)
- Wide skyscraper (160×600)
This gives you a good variety for testing and you should try every one of them.
Full Page Ads - This really just speaks for itself. All you need is the url of whatever you are showing. You are charged per view so keep that in mind. Also keep in mind, I’ve yet to ever be profitable in such a campaign.
Adbrite Site Directory
The Adbrite Site Directory is where the golden nuggets lay. I do not engage in advertising with Adbrite’s category feature advertising. Let’s face it, they aren’t Adsense or the Yahoo Publisher Network however they are on track to breaking into the market in a big way but for now they are just no there yet. I’ve gotten merked in category advertising because the amount of shit sites far outweighs the good ones. Yea I could have monitored them and cut them down accordingly but that’s a lot of work and I dont like a lot of work.
There is nothing complicated here so dont try to over analyze things. The best way to get started is to set up an account with Adbrite and find an offer you are interested in. From here it is as simple as finding sites with them and doing your own research to make an educated decision of whether you want to test it or not.




9 Comments Received
October 16th, 2008 @10:06 am
Ruck,
Thanks again for putting in the time & effort to crank out this awesome series. I am literally printing each day’s post out for multiple re-readings and soaking it all up like a sponge.
I went ahead today and created an adBrite account & launched 12 site-targeted text ad campaigns for 2 offers I’ve had success on in Google content. It’s a bit of a pain to do just 1 site per order, but the CPMs are so low that any sort of half-decent response rate should make ‘em work. I’ve got conversion tracking set-up by placement & ad. wOOt!
Keep it up bro & gracias,
Allen
October 16th, 2008 @12:03 pm
Jesus,
You move quick man. Keep us informed of how it goes, (actually dont haha). Did you squeeze all the site research too or you just going with the throw and see if it sticks method>?
October 16th, 2008 @2:11 pm
Hey Ruck I gotta say I am tremendously impressed with this series. Ive dabbled in media buying a bit but this really locks it down. I have a profitable biz so as we speak I have my VA reading over your initial posts and translating them into a super clear step by step system so I can then outsource the entire process up to the point where i have to negotiate the price. You dont happen to have a template and training guide for your outsourced personel laying around youd be willing to sell?!
Also a post on how you automate as much of this process as possible would be awesome. I know the newbies dislike anytime people mention costs but the real money is made when u can effeciently get other people to the grunt work cheap and you jsut reap the profit! Your insite into this would be eye opening im sure!
BTW: I have also been “merked” (i really like that word) On adbrite category targetting myself spent thousands and barely broken even at best, and thats running my own offer wher ei keep the profits! god help soembody who jsut has to rely on affiliate comisions…
Lookin forward to the rest of the series!
-Bobby
PS: Ill be joining your network!
October 16th, 2008 @2:19 pm
One follow u question: Do you use an adserver to serve up and rotate your banners? and if so which do you reccommend?
Ive been lookin at adjuggler and openX but they both seem more publisher focused. an expert opinion would be appretiated!
October 16th, 2008 @8:46 pm
Hey Ruck,
I’m loving the case study! I’ve been trying to crack the code to media buying and I’ve been having negative results.
I know you’re talking about using AdBrite’s network, but have you tried using other networks like: Casale Media, Valueclick or Tribal Fusion?
I’m just wondering if it’s the same self-serve system as AdBrite. With AdBrite, it’s easy to just order a flat-rate ad and get the traffic within a few hours.
Just wondering what your thoughts were. Thanks!!
October 16th, 2008 @9:31 pm
@ BobbyD - I wish I had something prewritten setup but other than some copy and paste emails at the start of negotiations, I really dont. Each scenario is really different. I automate it alot with the guys at C2M
The problem with Adbrite Category in my opinion seems to lie in they seem to run your ads more on the shitty sites because nobody in their right mind would ever do that. That’s my conspiracy theory anyway but maybe at Adtech I can get first hand clarification on them because I see the business model they are trying to achieve and I will cheer them on but that part of the model of “doing whatever it takes” with those horrible sites is a flaw that I wont support and will voice out for anyone that will listen.
We’ll be on the lookout for your app!
@Jasper - I answered very sparingly in the forum Jasper and the short answer is yes I have advertised with Casale Media, shook their hand and I believe we were boozin at their booth at the summit (or was that Adtech?). Nice bunch of people, but outrageous pricing…OUTRAGEOUS. I had horrible results. I really believe that is much more for branding than it is for us marketers. But yea they will serve your ads. BTW - I am actually geared up for some Valueclick testing but will probably never dabble with TribalFusion just from the feedback I have gotten from the people I know. Yea it could be a goldmine for someone but for now I stay away from them.
October 16th, 2008 @11:35 pm
thanks for the quick reply Ruck!
A few more things:
1) what do you use for an adserver? how do u track impressions/clicks/conversion rates/profitability site by site?
2) how do you manage paying all of these small publishers every month? im thinking excel sheet but if u have a nice peice of software to manage this im all ears!
3) I have my own product so i would be marketing that first and obviously im looking to drive as much traffic as possible. can this scale up to hundreds of sites? and if so how do u manage it? (i like to think big
4) pricing: i know i know every situation is going to be different, but any pricing guidelines you can give would be great, even examples based on the green tea patch campaign would be cool jsut so we could get a ballpark idea of what those week long tests shoudl cost.
Sorry if this is question overdrive youve just gotten me real excited!
Thanks again i look forward to the next 14 posts!
November 13th, 2008 @9:49 am
Yo Ruck, here’s a quick update on my results of 12 adBrite tests (see my post above)…
10 of the tests struck-out due to lack of impressions. It was a pretty tightly-focused offer, so not too surprising. No $ loss since I was running CPC (and had few clicks).
1 test on Huffington Post flamed out — tried a display CPM ad, burned through the budget fast, got some clicks but no conversions. Lost $100, lesson learned (there’s plenty of traffic here, need the right offer).
1 test did great — tried a 1-week text ad at flat rate — 218% ROI! I’m expanding to a 1-month run which cuts my adv rate by 25% & should therefore boost ROI even more. wOOt!
There’s definitely potential in adBrite and I’m looking forward to doing more business there. Thanks Ruck for sharing your tips & advice, I appreciate it bro!
Allen
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